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		<title>By: Rita</title>
		<link>http://timthefoolman.com/2007/01/10/iphone-vs-ppc-6700/#comment-11858</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://timthefoolman.com/2007/01/10/iphone-vs-ppc-6700/#comment-11857</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rita,

I haven&#039;t tried it, but there is apparently an update to the 6700 that will provide it with an iPhone-like UI. Given the various issues, I&#039;m leaning toward de-integrating my devices, moving toward a simpler phone for phone calls (and maybe text messaging) and an iPod Touch for everything else. - Tim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rita,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t tried it, but there is apparently an update to the 6700 that will provide it with an iPhone-like UI. Given the various issues, I&#8217;m leaning toward de-integrating my devices, moving toward a simpler phone for phone calls (and maybe text messaging) and an iPod Touch for everything else. &#8211; Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Rita</title>
		<link>http://timthefoolman.com/2007/01/10/iphone-vs-ppc-6700/#comment-11856</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 21:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How can the HTC 6700 have iphone menu and the other features... I know that the HTC Touch can]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can the HTC 6700 have iphone menu and the other features&#8230; I know that the HTC Touch can</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://timthefoolman.com/2007/01/10/iphone-vs-ppc-6700/#comment-11157</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[James,

You can get picture mail without launching the web browser and opening up a EVDO or WiFi connection? If so, then you have a better PPC 6700 than any of the others I&#039;ve seen. MMS isn&#039;t supported by the base firmware, so you have an exceptional unit! I&#039;ve played with the iPhones too. I&#039;m not sure what part of the experience you&#039;re calling &quot;horrible.&quot; For me, it&#039;s no worse (as a phone) than the 6700, and in most other respects, the iPhone is better. However, I&#039;m still not happy enough with the current iPhone feature set to go out and buy one. - Tim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>You can get picture mail without launching the web browser and opening up a EVDO or WiFi connection? If so, then you have a better PPC 6700 than any of the others I&#8217;ve seen. MMS isn&#8217;t supported by the base firmware, so you have an exceptional unit! I&#8217;ve played with the iPhones too. I&#8217;m not sure what part of the experience you&#8217;re calling &#8220;horrible.&#8221; For me, it&#8217;s no worse (as a phone) than the 6700, and in most other respects, the iPhone is better. However, I&#8217;m still not happy enough with the current iPhone feature set to go out and buy one. &#8211; Tim</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://timthefoolman.com/2007/01/10/iphone-vs-ppc-6700/#comment-11154</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 04:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, I would like to let you know on my xv 6700(ppc 6700) it does do the picturugs!e messages and the speaker works pretty good in my opinion and in my opinion the iPhone is horoble b/c i have played with my friends for a few days and it has b]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I would like to let you know on my xv 6700(ppc 6700) it does do the picturugs!e messages and the speaker works pretty good in my opinion and in my opinion the iPhone is horoble b/c i have played with my friends for a few days and it has b</p>
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		<title>By: Sarad</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 20:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess it all depends on what you are looking for. Do  you want an PDA with a phone or an IPOD with a phone? For professional SE and parttime EE student, IPhone does not cut it at all. To me, an IPhone is a cool toy but not very useful for my purposes. There are so many software I use like SpaceTime and EE tools, which I cannot imagine being able to run using an IPhone. Besides, I write my own programs and run it on my ppc with .NET Compact framework. So agreeing to what some articles said, depends on what your wants are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess it all depends on what you are looking for. Do  you want an PDA with a phone or an IPOD with a phone? For professional SE and parttime EE student, IPhone does not cut it at all. To me, an IPhone is a cool toy but not very useful for my purposes. There are so many software I use like SpaceTime and EE tools, which I cannot imagine being able to run using an IPhone. Besides, I write my own programs and run it on my ppc with .NET Compact framework. So agreeing to what some articles said, depends on what your wants are.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 01:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kev,

I agree completely. It remains to be seen if the fascination with touch-screens and gestures will be a flash-in-the-pan or a sea change.

siol2k,

I agree with the &quot;different strokes for different folks,&quot; but that&#039;s a far cry (for me) from &quot;The iPhone is not worth the hype, its a toy.&quot; It strikes me as odd that there seem to be two camps, both saying opposing things.

The Apple camp (fanbois and &quot;mactards&quot;) says that the low market share of the Mac doesn&#039;t equate to its quality, because the &quot;masses are just sheep.&quot; However, when the iPod dominates the market, or the iPhone launch causes Wall Street types to wonder about Apple &quot;owning&quot; consumer electronics, those same people toss out sales figures and state how clearly this demonstrates the superior Apple experience.

Likewise, the anti-Apple camp points to low market share of the Mac and dismisses it as &quot;irrelevant.&quot; These same people look at the shipping quantities of Windows Mobile or Windows Media Center and proclaim that these devices appeal to &quot;power users.&quot;

My take on this is that the PPC-6700 was an outstanding phone... at the time it came out. For a certain class of user, it is probably superior to an iPhone... for now. For a completely different class of user, the 6700 would have never been acceptable, and the iPhone has greater appeal. Time will tell if the ~700,000 units Apple has supposedly shipped of the iPhone signify a larger market than the one that the 6700 appealed to.

For me, a business-oriented person, the 6700 is virtually worthless. Even if it worked as advertised, it&#039;s limitations as a phone would drive me crazy. The iPhone has shortcomings too, but for my usage patterns, it might be a better solution.

Thanks to both for posting. - Tim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kev,</p>
<p>I agree completely. It remains to be seen if the fascination with touch-screens and gestures will be a flash-in-the-pan or a sea change.</p>
<p>siol2k,</p>
<p>I agree with the &#8220;different strokes for different folks,&#8221; but that&#8217;s a far cry (for me) from &#8220;The iPhone is not worth the hype, its a toy.&#8221; It strikes me as odd that there seem to be two camps, both saying opposing things.</p>
<p>The Apple camp (fanbois and &#8220;mactards&#8221;) says that the low market share of the Mac doesn&#8217;t equate to its quality, because the &#8220;masses are just sheep.&#8221; However, when the iPod dominates the market, or the iPhone launch causes Wall Street types to wonder about Apple &#8220;owning&#8221; consumer electronics, those same people toss out sales figures and state how clearly this demonstrates the superior Apple experience.</p>
<p>Likewise, the anti-Apple camp points to low market share of the Mac and dismisses it as &#8220;irrelevant.&#8221; These same people look at the shipping quantities of Windows Mobile or Windows Media Center and proclaim that these devices appeal to &#8220;power users.&#8221;</p>
<p>My take on this is that the PPC-6700 was an outstanding phone&#8230; at the time it came out. For a certain class of user, it is probably superior to an iPhone&#8230; for now. For a completely different class of user, the 6700 would have never been acceptable, and the iPhone has greater appeal. Time will tell if the ~700,000 units Apple has supposedly shipped of the iPhone signify a larger market than the one that the 6700 appealed to.</p>
<p>For me, a business-oriented person, the 6700 is virtually worthless. Even if it worked as advertised, it&#8217;s limitations as a phone would drive me crazy. The iPhone has shortcomings too, but for my usage patterns, it might be a better solution.</p>
<p>Thanks to both for posting. &#8211; Tim</p>
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		<title>By: siol2k</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 00:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Iphone is not worth the hype,its a toy.Its nothing a busniss orianted person would use. The pocket pc maybe a littel bulky but maybe thats because its packed. I love when new devices come out,  I do and my research and look at the facts. I have a ppc 6700. You know the shuffel on the iphone, well the ppc 6700 have software you can download that allow you to shuffel on the device www.dynamo.com, check it out. I look at it like it this different strokes for different folks .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Iphone is not worth the hype,its a toy.Its nothing a busniss orianted person would use. The pocket pc maybe a littel bulky but maybe thats because its packed. I love when new devices come out,  I do and my research and look at the facts. I have a ppc 6700. You know the shuffel on the iphone, well the ppc 6700 have software you can download that allow you to shuffel on the device <a href="http://www.dynamo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.dynamo.com</a>, check it out. I look at it like it this different strokes for different folks .</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 04:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and since this is a 6700 discussion, check these vids out... the second one with the scrolling contacts and picsel browser is the best, especially when he does the NY Times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZszAGEXX7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL-VIKUG9jo&amp;NR=1]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and since this is a 6700 discussion, check these vids out&#8230; the second one with the scrolling contacts and picsel browser is the best, especially when he does the NY Times:</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://timthefoolman.com/2007/01/10/iphone-vs-ppc-6700/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/HZszAGEXX7Y/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://timthefoolman.com/2007/01/10/iphone-vs-ppc-6700/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/NL-VIKUG9jo/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 02:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a comment on the fascination with touch gestures.  Yep, it&#039;s very slick for newcomers to see the scrolling / selection, but it&#039;s hardly rocket science to those of us who&#039;ve been programming touch screens for decades.

The computing power needed is nearly zilch.  It&#039;s just recently that handhelds had the _graphics_ power to make it look smooth.  And of course, it takes a boss who lets you leave in the fun stuff ;-)

The wall that the Windows Mobile UI is backed against, is that plain smart phones save money by having just keys and no touch.  The iPhone&#039;s programmers could safely ignore this scenario.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a comment on the fascination with touch gestures.  Yep, it&#8217;s very slick for newcomers to see the scrolling / selection, but it&#8217;s hardly rocket science to those of us who&#8217;ve been programming touch screens for decades.</p>
<p>The computing power needed is nearly zilch.  It&#8217;s just recently that handhelds had the _graphics_ power to make it look smooth.  And of course, it takes a boss who lets you leave in the fun stuff <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The wall that the Windows Mobile UI is backed against, is that plain smart phones save money by having just keys and no touch.  The iPhone&#8217;s programmers could safely ignore this scenario.</p>
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