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	<title>Comments on: iPhone &amp; PPC-6700: Part 2</title>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://timthefoolman.com/2007/01/19/iphone-ppc-6700-part-2/#comment-12560</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 02:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So John, which of my points are in error? I&#039;m more than happy to be proven that I&#039;m wrong about any of them.

At the moment, I&#039;m using a Palm Pre&#039;, which is light years ahead of anything I&#039;ve used that runs Windows Mobile. Even so, I&#039;ve got more than my share of gripes with it, including it needing a regular &quot;therapeutic reboot.&quot; It makes me feel like I&#039;m running Windows Mobile (or Win 98) when that happens. - Tim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So John, which of my points are in error? I&#8217;m more than happy to be proven that I&#8217;m wrong about any of them.</p>
<p>At the moment, I&#8217;m using a Palm Pre&#8217;, which is light years ahead of anything I&#8217;ve used that runs Windows Mobile. Even so, I&#8217;ve got more than my share of gripes with it, including it needing a regular &#8220;therapeutic reboot.&#8221; It makes me feel like I&#8217;m running Windows Mobile (or Win 98) when that happens. &#8211; Tim</p>
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		<title>By: darby770333</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love my audiovox 6700 it a great phone especially with my cricket plan everything unlimited talk text web long distance]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love my audiovox 6700 it a great phone especially with my cricket plan everything unlimited talk text web long distance</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dumb a h u don&#039;t know nothing]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dumb a h u don&#8217;t know nothing</p>
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		<title>By: Your mama</title>
		<link>http://timthefoolman.com/2007/01/19/iphone-ppc-6700-part-2/#comment-11231</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 20:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You get a &quot;data access&quot; charge  when you use us for PHONE AS A MODEM. Just becuse you have unlimited vision dosent mean that phone as a modem is unlimited. Besides there was only a few phones that sprint had that could use it without the PAM script on the account. 6700 is one of them. Sprint isnt stupid they know the differene between the PAM and vision. And I knew it wouldnt be long before that caught up with everyone. Ive had quite a few customers latley act like they dont know how it happend. And the 6700 is garbage I service at least 20 a day. Windows sux. No matter what decvice you put it on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You get a &#8220;data access&#8221; charge  when you use us for PHONE AS A MODEM. Just becuse you have unlimited vision dosent mean that phone as a modem is unlimited. Besides there was only a few phones that sprint had that could use it without the PAM script on the account. 6700 is one of them. Sprint isnt stupid they know the differene between the PAM and vision. And I knew it wouldnt be long before that caught up with everyone. Ive had quite a few customers latley act like they dont know how it happend. And the 6700 is garbage I service at least 20 a day. Windows sux. No matter what decvice you put it on.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Ward</title>
		<link>http://timthefoolman.com/2007/01/19/iphone-ppc-6700-part-2/#comment-10952</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 00:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It took me a while to get used to my HTC Apache (PPC-6700) coming from a basic, older Blackberry (7250). After countless hours of installing, hacking, modifying, etc. I have a &quot;good&quot; backup of the phone that is quick, and does everything I need it to (AOL, MySpaceIM, YouTube, Shoutcast, etc.). I couldn&#039;t imagine myself on an all-touchscreen iPhone or no-touchscreen Motorola Q trying to pull this off. Although the Q is very thin and sexy, I&#039;ll stick with my 6700 until WM 6 becomes more stable (Ahem...6800 users!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took me a while to get used to my HTC Apache (PPC-6700) coming from a basic, older Blackberry (7250). After countless hours of installing, hacking, modifying, etc. I have a &#8220;good&#8221; backup of the phone that is quick, and does everything I need it to (AOL, MySpaceIM, YouTube, Shoutcast, etc.). I couldn&#8217;t imagine myself on an all-touchscreen iPhone or no-touchscreen Motorola Q trying to pull this off. Although the Q is very thin and sexy, I&#8217;ll stick with my 6700 until WM 6 becomes more stable (Ahem&#8230;6800 users!)</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bro,

I suppose we&#039;ll know more in about 10 hours, but the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/29/more-evidence-of-iphones-exchange-support-and-rss-reader/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;latest reports suggest&lt;/a&gt; that Apple is using the webdav (web services) interface to connect into Exchange Server (which presumes that OWA support has been configured). 

Given that you can have a &quot;live&quot; OWA session (which apparently keeps port 80 open for responses back from a is-there-a-new-message request), and that several people have already reverse-engineered the webdav protocols, I would think it&#039;s a matter of negotiations between Apple and MS over whether MS wants Apple to go in the front door (license the ActiveSync protocol) or the back. - Tim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bro,</p>
<p>I suppose we&#8217;ll know more in about 10 hours, but the <a href="http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/29/more-evidence-of-iphones-exchange-support-and-rss-reader/" rel="nofollow">latest reports suggest</a> that Apple is using the webdav (web services) interface to connect into Exchange Server (which presumes that OWA support has been configured). </p>
<p>Given that you can have a &#8220;live&#8221; OWA session (which apparently keeps port 80 open for responses back from a is-there-a-new-message request), and that several people have already reverse-engineered the webdav protocols, I would think it&#8217;s a matter of negotiations between Apple and MS over whether MS wants Apple to go in the front door (license the ActiveSync protocol) or the back. &#8211; Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Bro</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FYI on the iPhone... I had already heard this from other sources, for a potential &#039;corporate&#039; user email could be a problem, article from ComputerWorld 6/29/07 reviews concerns]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI on the iPhone&#8230; I had already heard this from other sources, for a potential &#8216;corporate&#8217; user email could be a problem, article from ComputerWorld 6/29/07 reviews concerns</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://timthefoolman.com/2007/01/19/iphone-ppc-6700-part-2/#comment-2837</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While Teathering the 6700 is complicated at first and not well documented at all it is a feature that I love... the fact the phone can be so versatile when put to proper use is awesome... anything apple makes is usually limited... BUT I will give them the fact that limiting things makes things run faster and more stable... I mean thats why an XBOX360 can run games so fast and stable &amp; so cheap compared to a PC. 

I am not a huge cell phone user though... I&#039;m a PDA and internet guy... I SPLIT a 550 minute plan with my wife... and usually half or more of our minutes get flushed down the toilet at the end of the month... most months we use 30 mins each... where as I will send like maybe 200 text messages... and hell last month I played an MMORPG for a week in Orlando via my phone in a hotel with no internet access.

Both devices have a target audience... Windows targets pocket-PC enthusiasts... iPhones will target MP3 &amp; phone people.  There is no 1 size fits all phone.... even for people who don&#039;t want MP3&#039;s or internet still face the battles of camera or no camera... black and white or color.. candybar, twist, slide, or clamshell  All with payouts... Clamshell protects the buttons nd large screen but gives a weak hinge... candybars have scratched screens but are easy to access and no weak hinge... black and white saves battery power... cameras can&#039;t be taken into govenment facilities causing you to leave a phone behind...

So if people can&#039;t pick a standard phone as &quot;the best&quot; then these hybrid items are even less likely to have a clear winner.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While Teathering the 6700 is complicated at first and not well documented at all it is a feature that I love&#8230; the fact the phone can be so versatile when put to proper use is awesome&#8230; anything apple makes is usually limited&#8230; BUT I will give them the fact that limiting things makes things run faster and more stable&#8230; I mean thats why an XBOX360 can run games so fast and stable &amp; so cheap compared to a PC. </p>
<p>I am not a huge cell phone user though&#8230; I&#8217;m a PDA and internet guy&#8230; I SPLIT a 550 minute plan with my wife&#8230; and usually half or more of our minutes get flushed down the toilet at the end of the month&#8230; most months we use 30 mins each&#8230; where as I will send like maybe 200 text messages&#8230; and hell last month I played an MMORPG for a week in Orlando via my phone in a hotel with no internet access.</p>
<p>Both devices have a target audience&#8230; Windows targets pocket-PC enthusiasts&#8230; iPhones will target MP3 &amp; phone people.  There is no 1 size fits all phone&#8230;. even for people who don&#8217;t want MP3&#8242;s or internet still face the battles of camera or no camera&#8230; black and white or color.. candybar, twist, slide, or clamshell  All with payouts&#8230; Clamshell protects the buttons nd large screen but gives a weak hinge&#8230; candybars have scratched screens but are easy to access and no weak hinge&#8230; black and white saves battery power&#8230; cameras can&#8217;t be taken into govenment facilities causing you to leave a phone behind&#8230;</p>
<p>So if people can&#8217;t pick a standard phone as &#8220;the best&#8221; then these hybrid items are even less likely to have a clear winner.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 11:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Xacs,

My Sprint Vision contract was already in effect with my previous phone, and &quot;expired&quot; in late January. My hefty data charge was while it was in effect. I&#039;m familiar with EVDO-tethering, which is not clear or easy to set up on this phone. It&#039;s a pain.

As for the TCMP and ORB players, why should I have to download and grab an open-source player? Why should I &lt;b&gt;expect&lt;/b&gt; to download a bunch of add-ons, instead of it just working out of the box.

How often do you take notes with the stylus on your phone during a call? Sorry for being weird, but the only reason I ever used the stylus on the 6700 was when I was trying to access one of the too-small icons or menu items. Theoretically, I should need a stylus &lt;i&gt;less&lt;/i&gt; with the 6700 than with an iPhone, due to the slide-out keyboard, but the only time I&#039;ve used that is for SMS messaging, and not for &quot;taking notes during a call.&quot; I don&#039;t type Word docs from my phone. The 6700&#039;s keyboard is great, but one or two sentences at a time and I&#039;m done.

For the rest of the items mentioned, the fact that you don&#039;t have to add a bunch of stuff, download this, download that, and basically fix the OS is one of the main reasons that the iPod took off, and left other MP3 players in the dust. Yes, among computer nerds, or people with lots of time on their hands, Windows is &quot;no problem&quot; and OS X is &quot;too simplistic&quot; or &quot;takes away too much control from me.&quot;

The &quot;hefty price tag,&quot; as noted elsewhere, is not much (if any) worse than what I paid for the 6700. As for the article you referenced, it&#039;s clearly as biased against the iPhone as you&#039;re suggesting that mine is. DivX? Thanks for the comment and link, but I can&#039;t see any PocketPC phone, running WM5, being anything to get excited about, based on the interface that Jobs demo&#039;d.

Time will tell. - Tim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xacs,</p>
<p>My Sprint Vision contract was already in effect with my previous phone, and &#8220;expired&#8221; in late January. My hefty data charge was while it was in effect. I&#8217;m familiar with EVDO-tethering, which is not clear or easy to set up on this phone. It&#8217;s a pain.</p>
<p>As for the TCMP and ORB players, why should I have to download and grab an open-source player? Why should I <b>expect</b> to download a bunch of add-ons, instead of it just working out of the box.</p>
<p>How often do you take notes with the stylus on your phone during a call? Sorry for being weird, but the only reason I ever used the stylus on the 6700 was when I was trying to access one of the too-small icons or menu items. Theoretically, I should need a stylus <i>less</i> with the 6700 than with an iPhone, due to the slide-out keyboard, but the only time I&#8217;ve used that is for SMS messaging, and not for &#8220;taking notes during a call.&#8221; I don&#8217;t type Word docs from my phone. The 6700&#8242;s keyboard is great, but one or two sentences at a time and I&#8217;m done.</p>
<p>For the rest of the items mentioned, the fact that you don&#8217;t have to add a bunch of stuff, download this, download that, and basically fix the OS is one of the main reasons that the iPod took off, and left other MP3 players in the dust. Yes, among computer nerds, or people with lots of time on their hands, Windows is &#8220;no problem&#8221; and OS X is &#8220;too simplistic&#8221; or &#8220;takes away too much control from me.&#8221;</p>
<p>The &#8220;hefty price tag,&#8221; as noted elsewhere, is not much (if any) worse than what I paid for the 6700. As for the article you referenced, it&#8217;s clearly as biased against the iPhone as you&#8217;re suggesting that mine is. DivX? Thanks for the comment and link, but I can&#8217;t see any PocketPC phone, running WM5, being anything to get excited about, based on the interface that Jobs demo&#8217;d.</p>
<p>Time will tell. &#8211; Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Xacs</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 05:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You need to get yourself the Sprint Vision addons ($15/mo for unlimited data). Nice post on the comparisons but I guess your not familar with the EVDO-tethering, TCMP player, ORB and such which really makes the PPC-6700 or any EVDO-PocketPC enabled phone stand out. If your an Apple camper and could afford the hefty price tag your cool; well for the rest of us the EVDO-PocketPC is here to stay. Heres another take on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://roboworks.blogspot.com/2007/01/is-iphone-really-worth-hype.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;iPhone hype.&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need to get yourself the Sprint Vision addons ($15/mo for unlimited data). Nice post on the comparisons but I guess your not familar with the EVDO-tethering, TCMP player, ORB and such which really makes the PPC-6700 or any EVDO-PocketPC enabled phone stand out. If your an Apple camper and could afford the hefty price tag your cool; well for the rest of us the EVDO-PocketPC is here to stay. Heres another take on the <a href="http://roboworks.blogspot.com/2007/01/is-iphone-really-worth-hype.html" rel="nofollow">iPhone hype.</a></p>
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