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	<title>Comments on: Why You Don&#8217;t Want a Honda S2000</title>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://timthefoolman.com/2008/04/19/why-you-dont-want-a-honda-s2000/#comment-12479</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Roger, I don&#039;t have any first-hand experience with the 2006 and later cars, but I have to say that I&#039;ve been in a couple of situations with mine (caught by surprise in the snow) where stability control would have been extremely useful. Unless there were questions about the condition, I would probably opt for the newer car.

Thanks for stopping by! - Tim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roger, I don&#8217;t have any first-hand experience with the 2006 and later cars, but I have to say that I&#8217;ve been in a couple of situations with mine (caught by surprise in the snow) where stability control would have been extremely useful. Unless there were questions about the condition, I would probably opt for the newer car.</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping by! &#8211; Tim</p>
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		<title>By: roger</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 04:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[what is your opinion of buying a 2005 s2000, or a 2007 with the wire throttle and stability control?  are the improvements made on 2006 enough to get that year or later, or is the 2005 a better car without those improvements?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is your opinion of buying a 2005 s2000, or a 2007 with the wire throttle and stability control?  are the improvements made on 2006 enough to get that year or later, or is the 2005 a better car without those improvements?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://timthefoolman.com/2008/04/19/why-you-dont-want-a-honda-s2000/#comment-12281</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 01:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill, it sounds to me like there is definitely something wrong with your car. Typically, the term torque steer is used to describe a characteristic of a front-wheel drive car, and is usually a design issue. Unless you&#039;ve got some major problems with the rear suspension, I can&#039;t imagine a properly aligned rear end causing the kind of steering issues you&#039;re describing.

Granted, in a turn, you can definitely hang the tail out (or bring everything around) if you hit the V-TEC point in mid-curve, but your comment about steering it down the highway makes me think that something is seriously wrong. I would have that checked out.

I agree wholeheartedly with all of your other comments. It&#039;s amazing that I&#039;ve not been ticketed in this thing, because it just begs for more and more throttle. Thanks for stopping by. - Tim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, it sounds to me like there is definitely something wrong with your car. Typically, the term torque steer is used to describe a characteristic of a front-wheel drive car, and is usually a design issue. Unless you&#8217;ve got some major problems with the rear suspension, I can&#8217;t imagine a properly aligned rear end causing the kind of steering issues you&#8217;re describing.</p>
<p>Granted, in a turn, you can definitely hang the tail out (or bring everything around) if you hit the V-TEC point in mid-curve, but your comment about steering it down the highway makes me think that something is seriously wrong. I would have that checked out.</p>
<p>I agree wholeheartedly with all of your other comments. It&#8217;s amazing that I&#8217;ve not been ticketed in this thing, because it just begs for more and more throttle. Thanks for stopping by. &#8211; Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Wright</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill Wright]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 00:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I own a 2007 S2000. ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT! It&#039;s as close as I can afford to get to a Formula 1 car. Only 2 complaints. The first is I love the way it runs at 8000 RPM. But I wish it would rev to 17000 rpm I keep bumping the limiter just when it really gets going. MORE MORE MORE is all I think of when I shift to the next gear. Second and definitely the most disheartening is the amount of torgue steer this car has. Step of the throttle and the car goes left. Let off the throttle the car goes right. You can steer this car down the highway with the throttle alone. That to me is a major design flaw from Honda&#039;s engineernig team. Why it does it I have no idea!

For those of you who drive WRX&#039;s, NSX&#039;s or any other &quot;so called&quot; sport tuner..... An S2000 is a wild animal (Under $35,000) that wants to run. It is difficult car to drive around without sticking your right foot through the floor, gripping the wheel, slamming the gears and wandering when the police are going to take you to jail.

I find it nearly impossible NOT to run the snot out of it. 

Sure, I&#039;ve driven a Z06 and had the opportunity to be driven in a 911. But for $35,000 you&#039;ll find nothing even close.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I own a 2007 S2000. ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT! It&#8217;s as close as I can afford to get to a Formula 1 car. Only 2 complaints. The first is I love the way it runs at 8000 RPM. But I wish it would rev to 17000 rpm I keep bumping the limiter just when it really gets going. MORE MORE MORE is all I think of when I shift to the next gear. Second and definitely the most disheartening is the amount of torgue steer this car has. Step of the throttle and the car goes left. Let off the throttle the car goes right. You can steer this car down the highway with the throttle alone. That to me is a major design flaw from Honda&#8217;s engineernig team. Why it does it I have no idea!</p>
<p>For those of you who drive WRX&#8217;s, NSX&#8217;s or any other &#8220;so called&#8221; sport tuner&#8230;.. An S2000 is a wild animal (Under $35,000) that wants to run. It is difficult car to drive around without sticking your right foot through the floor, gripping the wheel, slamming the gears and wandering when the police are going to take you to jail.</p>
<p>I find it nearly impossible NOT to run the snot out of it. </p>
<p>Sure, I&#8217;ve driven a Z06 and had the opportunity to be driven in a 911. But for $35,000 you&#8217;ll find nothing even close.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 14:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t it difficult to be in love with a car like this. Makes you think though... If Honda spent any more time improving the rear view mirror. Or added a top of the line stereo or any of those other features that BMW and Mercedes tell you you need, would they have missed something on the transmission or the engine or the suspension. I&#039;m happy they didn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it difficult to be in love with a car like this. Makes you think though&#8230; If Honda spent any more time improving the rear view mirror. Or added a top of the line stereo or any of those other features that BMW and Mercedes tell you you need, would they have missed something on the transmission or the engine or the suspension. I&#8217;m happy they didn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch Lazarus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mitch Lazarus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well for what it&#039;s worth I have had my s2000 since 2002. I had to have a blue on with a glass rear window, and that&#039;s when it became available. I love everything about the car, and any issues I had, I have rectified. 

It has an upgraded suspension, sound system, and a supercharger.

I worked out the mirror issue long ago. Reverse the way you would normally use the mirror. 
Use the night mode for day and once you have set the angle, the other position]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well for what it&#8217;s worth I have had my s2000 since 2002. I had to have a blue on with a glass rear window, and that&#8217;s when it became available. I love everything about the car, and any issues I had, I have rectified. </p>
<p>It has an upgraded suspension, sound system, and a supercharger.</p>
<p>I worked out the mirror issue long ago. Reverse the way you would normally use the mirror.<br />
Use the night mode for day and once you have set the angle, the other position</p>
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		<title>By: vanheng</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cool post, very interest considering I was planning to get a used honda s2000, maybe there at 04 year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cool post, very interest considering I was planning to get a used honda s2000, maybe there at 04 year.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://timthefoolman.com/2008/04/19/why-you-dont-want-a-honda-s2000/#comment-11930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t worked through the part where I have to tell my wife about &quot;the Ariel Plan.&quot;

I work in NH a lot, and I can&#039;t imagine driving this car there except for about 6 months out of the year. The only thing I can imagine you&#039;d add with a cam change would be boosting the torque at the low end, which would explain the idle roughness you described. I found some Toda cams that sound like they have this characteristic, but still have to wonder if swapping out the rear gear wouldn&#039;t have more impact/$.

You definitely  need to swap those springs. The added weight in the front of the 260 made the stock springs stiffer, but you might want to go stiffer than that based on the 2600/350 weight delta. Even so, it sounds a bit like the &quot;Monster Miata&quot; that a friend used to have. - Tim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t worked through the part where I have to tell my wife about &#8220;the Ariel Plan.&#8221;</p>
<p>I work in NH a lot, and I can&#8217;t imagine driving this car there except for about 6 months out of the year. The only thing I can imagine you&#8217;d add with a cam change would be boosting the torque at the low end, which would explain the idle roughness you described. I found some Toda cams that sound like they have this characteristic, but still have to wonder if swapping out the rear gear wouldn&#8217;t have more impact/$.</p>
<p>You definitely  need to swap those springs. The added weight in the front of the 260 made the stock springs stiffer, but you might want to go stiffer than that based on the 2600/350 weight delta. Even so, it sounds a bit like the &#8220;Monster Miata&#8221; that a friend used to have. &#8211; Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Scientist</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 14:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim,

You think your wife won&#039;t freak out about an Ariel Atom?  You&#039;ve got a keeper there!

Back in NH (bad place to own an S2000) I had a buddy who got a pair of Crower cams for his S2, and was very happy with the results other than a marked decrease in gas mileage.  It wasn&#039;t as huge a deal in 2003 as it is now, and the power increase (if I started spewing numbers, I&#039;d be making it all up) was noticeable.  The idle sounded rough and angry, and overall I&#039;d say it was worth the $400 or so he paid (again, assuming mileage isn&#039;t a big concern.

My 240z has what amounts to cut springs, and it has about 1&quot; travel before it hits the bump stops.  I&#039;m taking the suspension from the 260z in my garage and putting that in (hopefully this weekend), which should really straighten out the ride.  That 260z still has the stock motor with two sets of SU side-drafts.  It isn&#039;t assembled, so isn&#039;t running, but I think I&#039;m just going to sell all that as-is after I get what I need from it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim,</p>
<p>You think your wife won&#8217;t freak out about an Ariel Atom?  You&#8217;ve got a keeper there!</p>
<p>Back in NH (bad place to own an S2000) I had a buddy who got a pair of Crower cams for his S2, and was very happy with the results other than a marked decrease in gas mileage.  It wasn&#8217;t as huge a deal in 2003 as it is now, and the power increase (if I started spewing numbers, I&#8217;d be making it all up) was noticeable.  The idle sounded rough and angry, and overall I&#8217;d say it was worth the $400 or so he paid (again, assuming mileage isn&#8217;t a big concern.</p>
<p>My 240z has what amounts to cut springs, and it has about 1&#8243; travel before it hits the bump stops.  I&#8217;m taking the suspension from the 260z in my garage and putting that in (hopefully this weekend), which should really straighten out the ride.  That 260z still has the stock motor with two sets of SU side-drafts.  It isn&#8217;t assembled, so isn&#8217;t running, but I think I&#8217;m just going to sell all that as-is after I get what I need from it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jesse,

I was reading about your 540Z yesterday, and it reminded me that I inherited a &#039;72 240Z for a couple of months. It was a stock engine with the SU side-draft carbs, but my buddy had gone completely through it to rebuild the body/chassis. All of my friends complained about riding in it because &quot;it&#039;s so rough over bumps,&quot; but I just couldn&#039;t get enough of it. There are days that I wish I still had that car. 

However, that can&#039;t compare to the beast you&#039;re looking at. :D 

I haven&#039;t talked to anyone who&#039;s cammed an F20C and been happy with the results. Where&#039;s the torque peak on that, and what are you sacrificing to get that?

My assessment has been that the most cost-effective performance enhancement would probably be a quicker diff gear. I agree completely with the exhaust comments, and feel the same way about intake upgrades. What&#039;s the point? The thing is ridiculously efficient from a volumetric standpoint. 

Ariel vs. Bike for me, comes down to a matter of keeping my wife from freaking out about it. Sad, but true. - Tim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesse,</p>
<p>I was reading about your 540Z yesterday, and it reminded me that I inherited a &#8217;72 240Z for a couple of months. It was a stock engine with the SU side-draft carbs, but my buddy had gone completely through it to rebuild the body/chassis. All of my friends complained about riding in it because &#8220;it&#8217;s so rough over bumps,&#8221; but I just couldn&#8217;t get enough of it. There are days that I wish I still had that car. </p>
<p>However, that can&#8217;t compare to the beast you&#8217;re looking at. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t talked to anyone who&#8217;s cammed an F20C and been happy with the results. Where&#8217;s the torque peak on that, and what are you sacrificing to get that?</p>
<p>My assessment has been that the most cost-effective performance enhancement would probably be a quicker diff gear. I agree completely with the exhaust comments, and feel the same way about intake upgrades. What&#8217;s the point? The thing is ridiculously efficient from a volumetric standpoint. </p>
<p>Ariel vs. Bike for me, comes down to a matter of keeping my wife from freaking out about it. Sad, but true. &#8211; Tim</p>
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